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Students bowl to raise money for Delilah’s

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Matt Beuoy | IDS

Bloomington fire fighters battle a blaze on Nov. 3 at Delilah's Pet Shop, 1320 N. College Ave. Fire fighters worked for three hours to extinguish the fire, which destroyed the building and killed about 20 animals.

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Senior Michael Kurth wants to see Delilah’s Pet Shop get “back on their paws,” and he and his classmates are working to make it possible.

Kurth is the appointed president of the project “Dollars for Delilah’s,” an organization working to raise money for the pet store, which was destroyed by a fire one month ago today.

“Since they’ve always been around, we thought it’d be a good idea to do something local and in the community and felt like it would be better received,” said junior Joe Falender, bowling chairperson for Dollars for Delilah’s. “And since it recently happened, people would remember it and be really sensitive to it.”

As part of the event hosted by the group, there will be free bowling from 7 p.m. to close today at Suburban Lanes, 2634 N. Walnut St. Free food will also be available, and donations for the pet shop will be accepted at the door. Raffle tickets will be sold with proceeds going to the shop.

The pet shop sustained irreparable damage in the fire, and about 20 animals died in the blaze. The shop is currently operating out of a temporary location at 1040 W. 17th St.

Tonight’s bowling is part of a week-long series of events organized by students in a business and professional communications course for their final project. The course aims to focus on “sharpening analytic and decision-making skills, team building and project management,” according to the syllabus prepared by the instructor.

“Basically every semester the class picks some kind of project,” said Kelly Wilz, the instructor of the class hosting Dollars for Delilah’s. “The course is a chance for them to take what they learn in class and apply that to working with a business.”

In the past students have worked with various larger organizations, but the small scale of Delilah’s business and the recent events surrounding it prompted this class into action.

“We thought that it would be good because it was a part of the community,” said Kurth. “And people are attached, and because it was a recent tragedy, we thought people would be more willing to reach out and help.”

So far the group has already raised more than $700, said junior Doug Hungerford, marketing adviser for the bowling event. The group’s goal is $2,500.

Dan Johnson, owner of Suburban Lanes, also teaches a bowling class at IU and was exposed to the idea of the fundraiser after speaking with Falender, a student of his this semester.

“It started out smaller than this,” Johnson said. “It turned into something big. We’ll run with it and do the best we can with it.”

Wilz has also been impressed with the work the class has done so far.

“They have just been full speed ahead,” she said. “It’s nice when the whole class gets on board. When you have 22 students all working on it and getting really excited about it, you get a lot done.”

In addition to bowling tonight, the group will be raising money at Jake’s Night Club and Bar on Thursday and at the Bluebird Nightclub on Saturday.

“I hope we get people that will understand that if it were them, it would be a nice thing to happen to them,” Johnson said, “especially during this time of year.”

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107. Posted by Sigh at 8:32 PM on Dec 09, 2008 | Report this comment

Thank you live and learn. Animal cruelty is the issue here and regardless of some of the biting comments from the public, the students should really be looking at why so many people got upset and understanding the issues. So many have said that they don't think the intentions of the students were bad and I think most would agree. You didn't mean harm, but even in the confession of feeling about the situation below, little understanding of the cruelty issues is expressed. The real issue here is not non-profit vs. for-profit, it is that supporting a business that deals in dogs, backyard breeders or worse is not acceptable in our society and they need to be held accountable. And thinking that money raised will help the store not have to sell animals? That I'm sorry is another demonstration of not understanding the issues. These people who sell animals want to, it is a profit and they aren't going to stop unless they are forced out. No amount of donated money is going to stop them. It shouldn't matter, PETCO and PetSmart are ethical businesses in regard to cats and dogs, they work with shelters and rescues and guess what???? They didn't need someone to donate money to them so they could do what is right. I'm sorry you are hurt, but this is the real world and the best thing you can do is learn from this and further investigate the real issues and root of the outrage, not get emotional over people picking on you.

106. Posted by Hey Sam... at 12:0 AM on Dec 09, 2008 | Report this comment

How was the protest today? Were there a lot of people there?

105. Posted by Uh? Are You Serious? at 1:20 PM on Dec 08, 2008 | Report this comment

"I don't really understand the point your trying to make about selling drugs to kids and how it could relate?" Truth be told, I was trying to understand, so I hope you will try to understand my point about selling drugs. By the way, your welcome for my optimism. Now, as to my point, you went into your argument saying that selling puppies from puppy mills was wrong, and I am going into my argument saying that selling drugs to kids is also wrong--lets just say use that premise even if you disagree. So, what I'm saying is that, since I need to make money, I might have to resort to selling drugs, even though it's wrong, in the same way that Deliliah's sells animals. I shouldn't be rewarded--moreso I should be punished--for being immoral.

104. Posted by Live and learn at 12:51 PM on Dec 08, 2008 | Report this comment

Sorry you feel that way. We all make mistakes, and the key is to learn from them rather than getting mad at the people who point them out. The big issue here is animal cruelty, not your feelings. If you don't want to see it that way, you are missing an opportunity to grow.

103. Posted by heartbroken at 11:9 AM on Dec 08, 2008 | Report this comment

Ha, yea you totally missed my point. Selling puppies is a small part of the business. Delilah's does allergy medicine work and other things for animals. When I said maybe they will not have to sell puppies again I meant maybe because of our efforts and such maybe they will not have to include selling puppies from puppy mills anymore as part of an income because the income from that is not needed anymore. Hopefully you understand. We are trying to help. I don't really understand the point your trying to make about selling drugs to kids and how it could relate? I could go on, but I won't waste my time. Obviously, once again no one is trying to understand and has compassion for what the young people in the community wanted to accomplish. Thanks for the optimism and support once again Bloomington. I have always loved this town, but today I am disappointed.

102. Posted by Uh? Are You Serious? at 1:8 AM on Dec 08, 2008 | Report this comment

"Perhaps Delilah's will be financially stable enough with our help to never have to sell puppies again?" Gee, why don't you give me charity, that way I won't have to work again? And, hey, if you don't give me money, I will start selling drugs to elementary school students. It's not my fault, it's just that I need money to survive, and if you don't give it to me, it's your fault that I'm selling drugs. Alright, let me be serious: There is nothing wrong with selling dogs, but you seem to think so based on the premise of your response that you don't want them to sell dogs again. Well, if what they are doing for money is wrong, they shouldn't be doing it regardless, because EVERYONE NEEDS MONEY, so why would you embark on a SOCIAL WELFARE CHARITY PROGRAM for someone who, in your eyes, is IMMORAL??? Next, the entire premise of your argument that they wouldn't have to work again is ridiculous. How much did you raise? A few thousand? Guess you're going to have to marry a man who is good with money.

101. Posted by heartbroken at 12:27 AM on Dec 08, 2008 | Report this comment

CONTINUED.......Our intentions were good, our intentions were to help pay for allergy medicine needs, food and so on. Did it ever occur to anyone that perhaps this tragedy that happened at Delilah's and all the help they have received could change their ways? Maybe with the insurance money collected and all the donations they will be able to use their business for animals instead of having to sell them to make a profit. Perhaps Delilah's will be financially stable enough with our help to never have to sell puppies again? And who cares if it is a for-profit organization. Not taking away from the great deeds and needed support to the non-profit organizations. Where has all the good gone in the world and the optimism? I stand by our project and am proud of what we accomplished. I do not appreciate the name calling. I am not a irresponsible, stupid person and never would have expected to be called so. I am so proud of us but sadly now much of my memories of this experience will be the negative aspects from each of you. Kelly is a fine instructor, shame on you for judging her teaching abilities when this is all you know of her and not a good example by far of her abilities. I never would have thought we would be portrayed this way and have to try and defend ourselves. Again, I can only say that I am extremely saddened it came to this. This note doesn't even begin to explain my thoughts.

100. Posted by heartbroken at 12:27 AM on Dec 08, 2008 | Report this comment

I have no intention of being uncivil in this note, this is coming to you from one of the irresponsible stupid students as civilly as she can possibly allow herself to put it.I was really apprehensive about writing a comment, but after reading every comment I need to defend our class. Our intentions were nothing of what you say and many of you aren't even trying to understand. I have never felt this way in my entire life. I would never support anything that would hurt or continue hurting helpless animals, do you think those were our intentions? Yes, we were misguided and not much was really know about the business.We just wanted to help a local business in a time of need and help keep animals in loving arms. But, were you in that class? During the entire process of this project not one time did any of us work as hard as we did knowing what we obviously, so kindly and so often reiterated by each of you, know now. How could you say we were mischievous in our fund raising tactic? We were completely upfront and the money will be used how we've explained. How could you be so demeaning to the young adults in your community trying to make a difference. I'll be sure to remember that.I wish I could put more into words how hurt I have been by this. I can't even begin to explained how unimaginably hurtful it is to read "It appears to me that the four legged friends would be better off if the students volunteered at an animal shelter or even became truly educated about pet store puppies and kittens. Maybe these students can go to animal control and the shelter and each tell an animal that because the petstore puppy is getting a home... they won't be," are you kidding me? I and we put so much time into what we thought was a wonderful thing and you sit there and tell me I do not care for these animals when those were our very intentions. continued.....

99. Posted by misinformed at 1:50 PM on Dec 05, 2008 | Report this comment

I keep reading on these posts that the students intended to help fund the costs of the animals in need of medical attention from the injuries occured during the fire. However, this is misinformation. A little research goes a long way: From a story published in the Herald Times on 11/05 by Marcela Creps “She said the 12 animals rescued from the fire have already found new homes.” From the HT on 11/03 by Sarah Morin “Nine dogs and three cats were taken away from the scene in an ambulance to Arlington Heights Veterinary Hospital where they were all fine.” “The three cats were on oxygen for a while but were taken off. The pets suffered no harm from the blaze, although they smelled of smoke, Miller said.”

98. Posted by Solutions, not attacks at 12:15 PM on Dec 05, 2008 | Report this comment

I am saddened that the tone of these comments has turned into personal attacks and the dismissal of each others' points of view. Rather than attack one another, why not offer some solutions? Here is what we know: The money was promised to Delilah's, and those who donated were under the impression that that was where their money would go. As one post commented, "I don't think you should turn this around and support a different cause. I think you already started the charity, and it would be morally disingenious to take away their money now that you've already started giving it to them." But what about holding an event at IU raising the issues brought up here by so many on these postings? As the last post claimed, "Obviously, there is a lot of work to be done at IU regarding these issues." Why not throw our energy into educating the Bloomington public and IU? While I wholeheartedly support anyone who wishes to protest, I fear that protesting might alienate many who may have been supportive of our cause. But maybe there are other solutions as well? I hope more of these posts will focus on solutions, productive dialogue, and at least, a modicum of civility.

97. Posted by Do the right thing at 11:8 AM on Dec 05, 2008 | Report this comment

For the students and others who are saying that it is just a class project and it is over, move on...yes mistakes were made and no one here thinks you are starting some global initiative to subsidize pet shops across the country. It is in these moments where things change...where all this discussion shows all the other "peers" you talked to who didn't have an issue..that there is an issue. Moving on does nothing to change society and help the animals in this case. Thanks for giving the opportunity to educated so many people about what is really going on in animal welfare and here locally. Obviously, there is a lot of work to be done at IU regarding these issues.

96. Posted by Get a clue at 10:55 AM on Dec 05, 2008 | Report this comment

exoc1 you are sadly misinformed and probably someone from Delilah's...animals in shelters are not all abused or have issues. The top reasons animals are in shelters is that PEOPLE give them up because: Can't afford, moving, landlord doesn't allow. This is a fact. Do you think animal shelters adopt out animals with severe behavioral problems? No they don't. In fact, the City of Bloomington Animal shelter has pure breeds all the time INCLUDING many from Delilah's that are given up because student buy them on impulse and can't keep them. There are also pure breed rescues that only deal in one type of dog. Again, these are not all abuse/neglect cases most are situations where people simply couldn't keep them for one reason or another. There are many other options out there and millions of animals die each year because there aren’t enough homes for them. That is why people are working so hard to stop the overpopulation and places like puppy mills, etc. It all contributes to the massive overpopulation and abuses of animals. Animals deserve better and we need to fix these problems. Get smarter folks. It’s not the 1950’s anymore.

95. Posted by Selu Gadu at 9:53 AM on Dec 05, 2008 | Report this comment

Actually, "pet lover," I HAVE run a small business so I do know what goes into it. I also would not run a small business that harmed animals any more than I would run a small business that sold, say, illegal narcotics, babies, or fraudulent materials. Running a business, once again, does not give you an ethical pass. The Kidwells have quite a racket going off their "devestation"--insurance money plus donations from the public. Not really feeling the pity here. Feel free to shop there--but recognize what you are supporting is puppy mills. If you can find it in your heart to condone puppy mills, then you can condone anything. You have fun with that.

94. Posted by Pet lover at 9:38 AM on Dec 05, 2008 | Report this comment

Selu Gadu- you argue the same argument every time, "the puppies from delliah's have been traced to puppy mills" but you fail to realize that this is a small town small business that was recently devastated by a tragic event. You are so concerned with he said she said "ideas" that the puppies come from puppy mills, you fail to see the big picture of students trying to help a local business that recently had a tragic event happen to them. You have never tried to run a small business therefore, do not know all the time and effort that goes into it. I suggest you stop with your one argument view on this issue because it is not getting you anything. Others and myself will continue to support Delliah's and if you dont like it dont go there. Maybe the mall's pet store is better kind of pet store for you.

93. Posted by The Real Selu Gadu at 8:46 AM on Dec 05, 2008 | Report this comment

I didn't post #94 below. *Yawns* Why keep impersonating me? Why not discuss the issues?

92. Posted by Selu Gadu at 8:29 AM on Dec 05, 2008 | Report this comment

Additionally, the Kidwells are capitalists. We must destroy the capitalist system that attempts to benefits humans at the cost of animals. The animals were on this planet first, and we should be serving them. Whoever posted 88 and 89 using my name - stop it. You're being immature. Also, you're making me sound stupid.

91. Posted by Selu Gadu at 8:13 AM on Dec 05, 2008 | Report this comment

"I"--I admit I'm part of a consumerist culture. Doesn't stop me trying to stop harm where I see it. No one has said the Kidwells are evil. They are, however, part of a system that enables puppy mills and backyard breeders (who can be just as bad) to thrive. They profit from that system by their choice. I cannot imagine even anti-animal rights people seeing videos from inside puppy mills and not being sickened. Also, some posters below seem to conflate accusations that the Kidwells SOURCE their dogs from puppy mills with claims that the Kidwells ARE a puppy mill. Obviously they do not run a puppy mill. But those cute puppies are not personally bred by the Kidwells, either. They are purchased from dog breeders including puppy mills and backyard breeders. If you are a friend of the Kidwells, you should ask to see their breeders' records. All of them. Surely if there is nothing to hide, they'll be willing to share with you, huh?

90. Posted by I at 7:30 AM on Dec 05, 2008 | Report this comment

Get off your high horse....im sure you own Nike clothes that were made in sweatshops in the Philippines. Im sure you have couches, tables, chairs, and other appliances that were made in China by a young child that only receives $2 a week. How about you stop being such a bigot and look at yourself first before you think your a purist and "holier than thou" and protest a family who has been an accepted part of this community longer than you have been here. Do you people even know the Kidwells? Have you ever stepped inside of Delilahs before and seen how compassionate the Kidwells are about animals? What was the quote she gave RIGHT AFTER her store burnt down? something like 'i dont care about the store, I just want to make sure all of the animals that usually come in and get their medicine will be able to get vaccinated in time for allergy season' - sounds like a money grubbing evil person to me doesnt it?

89. Posted by Selu Gadu at 6:29 AM on Dec 05, 2008 | Report this comment

Victoria007, people are never going to shut up just because you want them to (or because you or another Delilah's supporter impersonates other people). I think it's interesting that both here and on the HT, only the pro-Delilah's reporters turned to telling others to "shut up" and other uncivil tactics (such as impersonating me). People have traced their dogs from Delilah's back to backyard breeders and puppy mills. Being a mom and pop business is not a license to participate in a horrendous operation.

88. Posted by Selu Gadu at 6:22 AM on Dec 05, 2008 | Report this comment

Ready2Rage, thanks, but I didn't post #79 or #80 and don't endorse throwing blood on anyone. Some loser just posted in my name to poke fun of animal rights activists.

87. Posted by Selu Gadu at 6:19 AM on Dec 05, 2008 | Report this comment

I did not post some of the comments below in my name after # 78 (obviously). If you have a problem with me telling the truth about Delilah's, be adult enough to respond in your own name.

86. Posted by Errors in Judgement at 3:27 AM on Dec 05, 2008 | Report this comment

ecox says that we cant care about a pet shop cuz the economy sux. but wait, using that same logic, why should we care about the economy, if we're at war? look, there's something called multitasking. and different people caring about different things. and 24 hours in a day. and this is a local issue, so activists have more ability to activize on it.

85. Posted by ecox01 at 3:20 AM on Dec 05, 2008 | Report this comment

people really, get over your selves. our economy is in the shit hole, unemployment is at a new high, we still have soldiers dying in iraq, familes are losing their homes daily... there are bigger issues in the world. so for a god sake pick a new cause, especially one that doesn't discourage college kids from doing charity work!!!

84. Posted by ecox01 at 3:19 AM on Dec 05, 2008 | Report this comment

why are all of these people wanting to protest a pet shop???? this sounds like a small "mom and pops" type of business - which should be encouraged in an age of huge corporations. also, do you know where the animals come from that they sell? I know some people who breed their pets and believe me and pet of theirs is well cared for!! I'm all for supporting animal shelters and adopting dogs, i myself have a dog that I persoanlly rescued and who is my world!... but this is not always ideal. some people have small apartments, also with small children adopted dogs are not always a safe option (many dogs in shelters have been abused and react as such), and god forbid someone just wants a particular type of dog! and with this pet store closed does anyone really think this will hinder greedy dog breeders to stop - no, they will turn to selling dogs out of their homes where the animals will likely recieve worse care.

83. Posted by zombiecrush at 1:0 AM on Dec 05, 2008 | Report this comment

To the people in the class: I get that you picked a project based on the words of people you had no reason not to trust & this all seems silly to you. However, I think as part of the learning process of this project it's important to realize your mistakes. I get that you didn't have the time to research this project- but now you understand how important it is to research. Raising money means you've talked people into giving you their money- & we get the impression you are doing it by telling people they're helping the animals & NOT educating them about backyard breeders & puppy mills. In line with the previous comment about eating animals vs. mistreating pets, the goal here is to not make any animals SUFFER. Which is being done in food animals as well with things such as prop 2 that just passed in California. No animal should have to suffer because of something humans have done intentionally to them.This class project works against all of these people working so hard to make the world a more humane place for animals. Yes- we get this is a 4 week project of little importance to even the people implementing it, but it works toward the misguided notions in the community that it's OK to buy your companion animals from a pet store & that they should even help support it. While you've cleared that you wanted only to help pay the bills of the injured animals, you are still spreading the message that Delilah's is deserving of sympathy from the public. I think you guys had the right idea, but were misguided by woman looking for a free handout (she has had the insurance paid, as reported in the Herald Times) & the people who support her. As for writing to change the laws & such instead of protesting Delilah's- you must understand that this is part of stopping puppy mills & backyard breeders. We must raise awareness in the community that this is NOT OK in addition to writing our congress and working directly against puppy mills & backyard breeders.

82. Posted by Ready2Rage at 9:48 PM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

By the way, Selu, I encourage you to alert petshoppuppies.org. Ask them if they can put out a press release on their site.

81. Posted by Ready2Rage at 9:45 PM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

That's the way to think, Selu! Good ideas, but I think we should take this one step at a time. Perhaps we can protest Long John Silvers next week.

80. Posted by Selu Gadu at 9:42 PM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

We need to throw blood at those people who wear fur coats, steak n shake get their beef from farms that slaughter them in an inhuman way, and applebees gets their chicken from overpopulated chicken coups. Animals before humans! its our moral obligation!

79. Posted by Selu Gadu at 9:26 PM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

After we protest Delilah's, let's all go protest at Long John Silver's because they abuse the fish they raise!!! Come on people - we have a moral obligation!!!!

78. Posted by Selu Gadu at 9:16 PM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

To "I"--businesses like the Kidwells are an integral part of the flourishing of puppy mills (and thanks for the ideas--but protesting in front of puppy mills which are, by their nature, far out of the public eye is not a real swift idea, huh?) Ready2Rage, thanks for organizing the protest. Would you mind if I forward it to petshoppuppies.org? There are some other pet store protests going on Dec. 6 in Indy that they've been announcing--maybe some of those people can make it down here. (Sorry if you already know this.)

77. Posted by I at 8:52 PM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

Ready2Rage... You and those who are planning a protest have serious issues. Try protesting at puppy mills or other places rather than at Kidwell's business. You hippie liberals always need something to complain, even in a time of rebuilding an integral part of a community. If you are so concerned about puppy mills, why dont you write to your local congressman instead of wasting your time standing outside and yelling anti-puppy mill chants? If your aiming to take away business from the Kidwells, then I will become a patron of that store simply to spite your ignorance. May God have mercy on your soul

76. Posted by Ready2Rage at 7:39 PM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

Thank you for the support, Selu. The protest is planned for the site of the Deliliah's store from 7pm to 9pm this coming Monday.

75. Posted by Selu Gadu at 7:36 PM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

Ready2Rage, please post when/where the protest of Delilah's selling animals will be. I know I will try to be there. To the students who justify this project--you are not helping some destitute homeless person, you are helping a woman who has done real harm to animals. The Kidwells may try to turn a blind eye to the source of their animals, but that doesn't make them less morally responsible.

74. Posted by A misguided effort at 7:35 PM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

I appreciate you getting behind a need in the community but wish you had researched pet stores and their sordid pasts first. It's a vicious circle - puppies and kittens manufactured by greedy millers who have no interest in the state of their breeding stock, only the money their poorly vetted and ongoing genetic defect puppies and kittens bring in. Meanwhile millions upon millions of pets die at shelters. So for all the good your doing with the pet store, be ready to donate much more time to the shelter to euthanize the multitudes of pets who will lose their lives due to the pet store being put back in business.

73. Posted by BetterThanYou at 7:33 PM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

A person named "What?" has asked me to make a useful, coherant comment, so I will try my best this time. This heartless bastard, What?, said that his class wasn't even trying to save help animals. He said the only reason he was even doing anything was because it was his class project. And thus being only 4 weeks, he can't do it more than four weeks. What?, I challenge you to do what any of the many wonderful angry people who commented here did: Activize every day. You can get started by joining the protest against your class for your hateful puppy farming ways.

72. Posted by SupportiveStudent at 6:8 PM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

I just wanted to say that as a supporter of student charitable work, I applaud the effort of the students for trying to have a positive impact on the world around them. They have all worked very hard, and regardless of whether or not you believe in their cause, it is shameful to accuse them of wrong doing. This community would be better off if more people took the time and the initiative to make an impact.

71. Posted by What? at 5:36 PM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

Despicable? Can you BE any more dramatic? or nonsensical? If you are opposed to our campaign, why would you want it to continue longer? Furthermore, it is the nature of the class that we only had four weeks to do this charity - we can't help that - the point was not to help all animals everywhere. The point is that we have done what we set out to do, which is raise money for Karene Kidwell to get back on her feet (she is not rebuilding the shop) and help pay for treatment for the animals in the hospital. We never set out to do more than that. Try making a useful, coherent comment next time.

70. Posted by BetterThanYou at 5:13 PM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

The latest comment by someone in this class is just despicable. They said that this is only for four weeks and that we shouldn't be able to comment about it. Wait, how can someone only do a charitable project for four weeks? FOUR WEEKS? These people ought to be helping dogs more than just four weeks. Shame on them!

69. Posted by pleasemoveon at 4:58 PM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

alright. as much as your opinions are encouraged, and righteous, you need to understand that you are fighting against a four week CLASS PROJECT. Our intentions are not long term, they are not global; we solely based our fundraiser around a cause that, as we found, a majority of the campus population supported. While canning, we received a gracious amount of positive input which suggests that my classmates and I are not the only ones which "must be educated." Yes, we did not commit any of the project to initial research, which many of you have clearly stated should have been completed, but you need to realize that this project was to be planned and executed within four weeks. Please understand that your..."passionate" comments are welcome, but you are planning to protest and run against an optional, business communications class. We do not plan to continue our fundraising past this Friday, we have not been encouraging fundraising elsewhere; this is a project which we have whole-heartedly planned and proudly put into affect with nothing but good intentions. We understand that not everyone can be happy with a fundraiser's goal, but we are not the only students which encouraged our purpose. We received much support from our fellow peers, and did not see the harm that you speak of while raising the money that we did. So please, move on. We get it. You don't like our cause. You disagree with our fundraiser. But the semester is over. Our CLASS PROJECT is over. We're sorry if we upset you, but there is nothing to worry about...we're done now. Our CLASS is finished with our FOUR WEEK PROJECT.

68. Posted by Animal Luver at 4:27 PM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

I don't think you should turn this around and support a different cause. I think you already started the charity, and it would be morally disingenious to take away their money now that you've already started giving it to them.

67. Posted by Charlie at 4:14 PM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

We took in a kitten from Delilah's after a friend of a friend had purchased it there before realizing that she couldn't handle it. No surprise either since the kitten was very sick. We guess he was weaned from his mother too early. He got better after a few trips to the vet and some bottle feeding and he lives to this day as a healthy cat. In any case, to echo the majority of preceding responses, I urge the class to do whatever they can to turn this around and support a more deserving group. If Delilah's reopens, I don't recommend shopping there for anything, and if you see any of these students canvasing for dollars, maybe you can decline to donate to their cause in lieu of supporting an animal rescue nonprofit.

66. Posted by So ready to rage? at 4:12 PM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

Clearly, I am not surprised by your decision and would not be even if had not already been made aware of it. You fail to realize that even your cause may be flawed or misguided. I fear you may hurt a good person whose spirit and financial stability has been raised by our efforts - but apparently some casualties of community work are acceptable, while others are not. -Brittany

65. Posted by Ready2Rage at 3:56 PM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

Brittany (aka So Ready to Rage?): I read your comment, and at the end, you say, "Go ahead, keep on raging." I would like to take you up on the challenge. I am actually in the process of planning a protest for next Monday. Hopefully everyone who commented here and other concerned citizens will show up.

64. Posted by So ready to rage? at 3:26 PM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

I understand that, as we live in Bloomington, there will always be disgruntled activists ever-ready to seek a a protest that will sooth their open wounds caused by the endless injustices of the world...but, nonetheless, I am annoyed by this particular movement against the Delilah's Pet Shop fundraiser. I must make the point that no matter what the cause, there will ALWAYS be something else we could have done - I apologize that unfortunately, we cannot save the world in 3 weeks. Second, do keep in mind that Karene Kidwell, the owner of Delilah's, is a ***person*** with real life needs, real life finances, and a family. Keep in mind that she went without her shop income for a substantial period of time and continues to live on a more limited income. It is not as if we did a fundraiser for Petco or some other corporate business. Karene is an integral part of the Bloomington community, both business-wise and otherwise, and she is a fellow human being who just had her life's work taken away from her and some of her most prized possessions, including her own pet. I met Karene last night at our bowling event and she was one of the most genuine, thankful people I have ever met. I lost count of how many times she told us she was that she was so blessed by our efforts, and how thankful she is that she is not alone. It was heartwarming to say the least to see a woman so moved and and touched by our efforts. Yes, there will always be something else we could have done. Yes,our charity was for a for-profit business....but it was also for a person who is in need. I have a hard time imagining that our efforts were so terrible - our intentions were not the only positive thing about this fundraiser. But go ahead, keep on raging. -Brittany

63. Posted by Pixie at 12:36 PM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

Thank you for clarifying the goal for your fundraiser, ProjectFacts. The first two paragraphs of the article strongly imply that your group is raising funds to reopen the business as a pet store. However, I disagree that it's possible for a retailer to sell dogs and cats without supporting either backyard breeders or worse, puppy mills. And I'm concerned that you accept the claim that they "may be getting insurance later." I wish it had been stated in the article that your intent was to help with the animals' medical care, which is noble. However, the shop owner should have had an insurance policy or some other funds that would have covered this. Often animals in pet stores need medical care simply because they're sick or need regular vaccinations - don't they have a budget for that? Anyway, my apologies for the misunderstanding based on the article. Thanks again for posting those important details, and for helping with the injured animals' medical bills.

62. Posted by WhoaCalmDown at 12:24 PM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

The people who are giving their money to them are "supposedly" only giving it to help injured animals. If you love animals so much you would be happy to help the animals.

61. Posted by Project Facts at 12:21 PM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

Before judging our project, please be of the following facts we were told at the beginning of the project: 1. When we first spoke with Delilah's and other community members, we were informed multiple times that this organization did not engage in the unethical treatment of animals. In fact, they also informed us that they wouldn't even be rebuilding Delilah's--they were just focusing on grooming. The only expenses which weren't being covered (at the time the project began--again, they may be getting insurance later), were the high costs of medical care for the animals who survived the fire. We had absolutely no reason not to believe them. In addition, the Bloomington Community had set up a "Delilah's relief fund" at the People's State Bank, which again led us to believe this was a reputable organization. 2. Our money is NOT going to rebuild Delilah's. We set aside that money to help pay for the high cost of medical care for the sick and injured animals injured in the fire. We are donating the money for food, medicine, and care of these animals. And, I understand that this is a for-profit business, which is why we are only helping the injured animals with food, medicine, etc., not the business itself. 3. We truly believed Delilah's was not harming its animals, and only wanted to help those animals who were hurt in the fire--not to rebuild the pet store, something which I'm not sure at this point Delilah's is even doing. If we were misled, then it was on the part of Delilah's and other community members.

60. Posted by Animal Lover at 12:11 PM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

I think the money raised would be much more suited to those actually in need. Yes, it's sad that animals' lives were lost, but the store owner supports puppy mills. The store owner should also have plenty of insurance to cover his losses. If the students really want to something worthy they should raise money for a non-profit animal rescue. Looks like both the students and the professor need educated.

59. Posted by Medley at 11:9 AM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

I think the "course aims" should include thoroughly researching the beneficiary of the fundraiser. This is a private business, not a not-for-profit. In addition, it is a business built on the suffering of helpless animals. Ninety-eight percent of pet store puppies are from puppy mills. The other 2% are from back yard breeders. Delilah's is no exception. To support that business is to support the commercial breeding of dogs, which by it's very nature relies on neglect to be profitable. Vet care, caring staff, clean, safe, and spacious kennels, and quality food cost money, so the dogs go without. For more info on puppy mills, please watch the video at: http://video.hsus.org/ More info available at: www.petshoppuppies.org www.petstorecruelty.org www.prisonersofgreed.org www.ararebreedoflove.com

58. Posted by Pixie at 11:4 AM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

I'm also confused why it's necessary to raise funds for a private enterprise. Has the business been operating without insurance all these years? As others pointed out, shelters do need your support. I agree that the organizers of this event have good intentions, but must be uniformed. If members of the community want to help this person open a similar retail business for some reason, I hope it's on the condition that they sell supplies only and not pets. I don't know how you'd enforce that, though. No reputable breeder sells to brokers without knowing where their dogs will end up.

57. Posted by Dog Lady at 10:31 AM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

Great Idea for raising money - In memory of the lost creatures - donate the money to buy food & toys for the shelters that are busting at the seams. Those animals want to live and deserve to be loved and fed. Don't give in to the mills....my heart breaks for all those unfortunate babies.

56. Posted by Sheltergirl at 10:27 AM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

I work in an animal shelter and we have had animals come in who spent their early days in puppy mills. It's heartbreaking. Someone please redirect these kids to help shelters and not line the pockets of animal abusers!

55. Posted by Alum03 at 9:54 AM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

ADOPT DON'T SHOP. He's got good intentions he's just uninformed.

54. Posted by Adopt don't shop at 9:48 AM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

Obviously good intentions gone bad. why don't they donate the money raised to help this person start a Pet Product store, instead of a petshop (puppymill shop). Is someone calling these people and "gently" reminding them that they are promoting puppymills. I am sure they don't know, especially the kids. why doesn't someone go the with the program and ask the school if the video can be shown, and get them headed in the right direction. I put my comments here, but always feel this is wasted breath, unless someone is DOING something to fix it. Deby

53. Posted by animalloverindy at 9:31 AM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

Please people, pay attention - puppy mills are all over Indiana - just go to a shelter and rescue one of those poor dogs, they will love you forever and you will have saved a life. Buying from pet stores just keeps encouraging and allowing them to prosper!

52. Posted by petsmom3 at 9:8 AM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

Never, ever buy a dog or cat from a pet shop......These dogs come from puppy mills. Oh, the store owners will say they are from breeders, but these breeders are plain and simple puppy mills. If you are donating money to support these pet shops, such as mentioned here, you are actually supporting puppy mills. Please, please, please.....if you want to donate, then send your $$$ to an animal shelter in your county or to a spay/neuter facility. Stop the madness. Do your research before you donate or attend functions to support this or any other "pet shop".

51. Posted by captain jack at 9:2 AM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

I have a dog rescued from one of the puppy mills. My boy has 3 legs, one was broken so badly that it had to be amputated. I am thankful that he was rescued from the horrible conditions he endured. Anyone who buys live animals from stores is just asking for trouble. They are supporting criminal treatment of animals. Those that really want a happy, healthy addition to their family should do their research before they go buy that doggie in the window...

50. Posted by Sam at 8:50 AM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

I feel terrible for the poor, defenseless animals whose lives were lost in that fire, but to put more defenseless animals in that situation seems to be the last thing that should happen. How about raise money for shelters and humane societies?!! Supporting the neglect or animals and funding puppy mills is not the way to go. Have a heart.

49. Posted by Andrea at 8:17 AM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

IF Support pet stores Then you support the link below http://stoppuppymills.org/inside_a_puppy_mill.html how could anyone back something like this????

48. Posted by IndyAB at 8:15 AM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

Didn't the business have insurance? Sadly, many animals died and the owner of the business will get reimbursed regardless. There should be no need for these students to raise money for this. I am 100% against rebuilding a pet store!!

47. Posted by IndyAB at 8:7 AM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

Merry Christmas From Ye Olde Puppy Shoppe !!! We love our puppy customers - They're our #1 bread and butter, Especially right now at Christmas time With their MasterCards all a-flutter. Oh sure, they've heard about puppymills - They don't live in a cave. The tree-huggers dreamed THAT whole thing up. They're really quite depraved! All OUR pups came from "Local Breeders". These signs around TELL you so; We paint 'em up and hang 'em high 'Cause we want you to know! But back to our Christmas Greeting And why we wish you all Good Cheer; You see, you are $pecial folks to us At this festive time of year. We love you because you're lazy, Though very well-connected. You just won't take the time to find A breeder who's respected. But should we stumble upon someone Who IS savvy in any way, We'll just start extolling the wonderful work Of the grand ole USDA !!! We love you 'cause you just don't care - You buy it because you want it. You can lay your cash on OUR counter, ma'am, If you've got it, you OUGHT to flaunt it !!! We love the things you DON'T ask !!! It makes our job so easy. If you saw the sights behind the scene You'd probably get quite queasy. You'll never see the breeding dogs Who suffer on the wire, Or pups die of hyper-thermia When their truck gets a flat tire. We hope you have a vet you like - That pup's probably gonna need him. Ivomec wears off in thirty days - That's how long we've guaranteed him !!! Who cares when you get that blue slip home And find out that it wasn't true. Your Local Breeder's way out in Kansas ? HO! HO! HO! That joke's on you !!! We've got the carols playing And a Santa, for good reason; We're all scrubbed up and lookin' good So you'll make our Christmas season. As you walk away with your new pup We'll shed a happy Christmas tear. Don't change ONE THING about yourself- Just DO come back next year !!! (ching, ching$$!) Author Unknown

46. Posted by Sassy at 6:21 AM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

Michael has good intentions but is uninformed what his efforts will help.A store selling living animals that closes its doors in the evening and on weekends to leave the poor creatures to their fate,does not deserve any help from anyone.Worst of all,they perpetuate puppy mills,a place of horror for dogs.People that profit from the suffering of any living being should not be allowed to conduct any kind of business.

45. Posted by ARescueDirector at 3:58 AM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

Please consider some of the attributes of a responsible breeder of dogs. A responsible breeder has had the parent dogs tested for hereditary diseases before allowing them to mate; has had expert veterinary care for the mother dog throughout her pregnancy ; has given her special prenatal food, vitamins, and any medications required for her safety; and has had a veterinarian on call for the whelping, in case a cesarean section was needed. A responsible breeder has acclimated the maturing puppies to common experiences: meeting visitors; walking on leash; riding in various vehicles; hearing music; being groomed; and so forth. This breeder has done personality testing on the young dogs, in order to be able to properly match the dogs with prospective owners. A responsible breeder: offers to show the accommodations in which the puppies have been raised; interviews prospective purchasers; checks veterinarian and groomer references; and requires a contract to be signed which states that if, for any reason and at any age, the dog needs to leave the purchaser's care, it will be returned to the breeder. A responsible breeder loves the puppies he or she cared for – often 24 hours a day -- for the first weeks of their lives. A responsible breeder is not going to allow just anyone who has money to spend purchase one of these carefully-nurtured puppies. Given this description of a responsible breeder, do you REALLY think that "Delilah's" got its puppies from responsible breeders? As a person who has worked with dogs who live with the terrible consequences of their puppy mill experiences, it is my opinion that "Delilah's" is a business that should remain closed, and that efforts to raise funds to reopen it are generous -- but misguided.

44. Posted by ProAdoption at 1:57 AM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

I feel strongly that it is irresponsible to buy your pets from a store instead of adopting them from a shelter. It is nearly impossible to truly know where the animals come from, and in most cases, they come from mills where many of them die before every reaching the store. I have been to Delilah's before and noticed that at least three of the puppies had extremely bloated midsections, which usually indicates worms or another parasite problem. The woman who was working was perfectly nice to me, but brushed me off when I mentioned this to her. I ended up calling animal control to check out the problem, and they later told me that there was, indeed, a parasite problem. Make an informed decision about where you stand on this issue before you write off all animal advocates as vegan nutjobs.

43. Posted by Petrescuer at 12:30 AM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

I see about 110 animals at the Bloomington animal shelter that need homes.Please use the money to help them instead of using the money for someone that is gettng paid to sell pets thet were bred in horrid situations. If not donate for the shelter then why not donate it to be used for families that have lost their homes due to forclosure and have to take their loved pets to the shelter? Or buy dog and cat food and donate it to a food bank, or donate it to the wonderful spay and neuter clinic you have in Bloomington to help stop pet overpopulation? It's not too late to make the change.

42. Posted by StupidCommentsPart6 at 12:10 AM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

Well I am glad we can at least agree on the fact that it is an ethical dilema.

41. Posted by Stereotypes? at 12:6 AM on Dec 04, 2008 | Report this comment

Sigh...--therein lies an ethical dilemma of epic proportions for animal advocates : that is, the fact that we have socially elevated certain beings over others--the way that we have called some animals food, and others pets. Simply existing causes us to recognize the moral impossibility of living without inflicting some kind of suffering. It is excruciating. But in this case, it just seems so obvious that we do not have to buy and breed dogs when so many amazing companions are already alive and waiting for homes.

40. Posted by StupidCommentsPart5 at 11:48 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

You make a valid point. Hurting animals is never justifiable. That said, I'm not gonna eat meat anymore, cuz animals have to get hurt to be turned into food. But, wait: If I eat food, I am not actually hurting animals, the hunters and farmers are hurting animals. As for dogs, I'm not actually hurting them if I buy them--that said I wouldn't buy them, but I'm just proposing a hypothetical. Now, in both cases, animals are being hurt, but eating animals for food is morally justifiable by people. Seems stupid that one animal would supposedly have human rights even though it isn't a human, but another animal (ie a cow) is served on a dinner plate. Then you can go to China and eat dog, and you must consider the Chinese an inhumane people. Oh, and before you counter with Chinese don't eat dogs, do your research. Some do: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_meat Not that there's anything wrong with it, though.

39. Posted by Stereotypes? at 11:33 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

First, I am not "equivocating" rape. Look up the word, because you do NOT understand it. I am suggesting that we DO need laws to protect animals and people--we cannot just allow anyone to do anything they want. Have you seen any videos that document the horrors of puppy mills? The violence we inflict on dogs is beyond language to express. It takes a total psychic break to disassociate from that kind of suffering enough to inflict it. Hurting animals in sociopathic and is never justifiable. Ever.

38. Posted by daisy at 11:27 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

whereas i heartily applaud these students willingness to help in their community, please, please, please look into this deeper before you help delilah's. this shop is notorious for selling puppy mill puppies. so many of us in rescue have been fighting against these 'house of horrors' and every puppy bought from a pet shop just perpetuates the atrocities.

37. Posted by StupidCommentsPart4 at 11:24 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

You morally equivocating rape is terrible, Stereotypes. We should not endorse crimes which hurt people.

36. Posted by Stereotypes? at 11:21 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

Look, "StupidCommentsAgain"--in fact, there SHOULD be laws to protect animals from idiots who want to profit by hurting them. Your suggestion that we should let people do whatever they want in the name of "freedom" is roughly the equivalent of saying we should support slavery, torture, rape, murder etc. etc. because it is everyone's "right" to do whatever they want to whomever, whenever they want.

35. Posted by StupidCommentsPart3 at 11:14 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

IresQYorker said all pet shops support puppy farms. An earlier comment used an exceptionally high estimate: 99% get puppies from puppy farms. Even using 99% as our statistic, that would still mean that 1% don't use puppy farms. I say we stop painted stereotyped generalizations across broad swaths of society. I think that might have resulted in Jim Crow laws and Holocausts, but maybe I'm wrong.

34. Posted by StupidCommentsAgain at 11:11 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

The fact is, my man, that you don't hurt animals by financing a pet shop. Certainly, the pet shop might sell animals, and you could make an argument that they increase demand, but the bottom line is that these kids have the right to support whatever stupid business they want. When we take away that right, then we will destroy this Great Nation. What I propose is a new plan that will let people do what they want: Some people can volenteer at shelters and others can give their hard-earned money to a pet shop free of charge. It may be a stupid decision, but there shouldn't be laws against stupid decisions.

33. Posted by ires.q_yorkez at 11:3 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

Please, please DO NOT ASSIST IN REOPENING DELILAH'S!! ALL pet stores that sell puppies support puppy mills. All your hard work to raise money for Delilah's will result in the abuse of thousands of dogs trapped in puppy mills. Please research where pet store puppies come from! Thank you on behalf of all the dog's that need rescued from such a terrible fate!

32. Posted by ZooKeeper at 10:54 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

Don't shop adopt is right! I have four dogs at home, that have all been taken out of crappy situations. I have no more room or the finances to take on any more. Why not raise money for animals shelters as a class project instead???? My heart and thanks go out to all of those who rescue and foster animals.

31. Posted by Are you serious? at 10:49 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

Ummm....the last comment by "Stupid comments" tautologically betrays its writer's stupidity and ignorance. The people who are commenting here are VOLUNTEERS, animal advocates, and shelter employees who devoted endless hours to helping animals who suffer the aftermath of selling animals for profit. Let's get this straight: helping Delilah's HURTS animals. Period.

30. Posted by StupidComments at 10:36 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

While it must be said that it's stupid to help a business, it also must be said that these lazy bastards who keep saying you should help a local shelter are lazy and bastards. You shouldn't help a shelter, THEY should help. By spending money on a profitable business, you are not taking money from other people. They can keep helping local shelters and keep helping people that they think they are helping.

29. Posted by DO NOT SUPPORT MILLS at 10:33 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

Dont shop adopt, there is a reason for that saying and a reason why people rally against places like this. Please use the money for the good of the animals, not for allowing puppy mill puppies to be sold. A good breeder does NOT seel puppies to a pet store, plain and simple!!!!! DO NOT SUPPORT PUPPY MILLS!!!!

28. Posted by Petpals at 10:28 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

Wow. As an ALL VOLUNTEER unpaid rescue group near Bloomington that struggles for every dime just to re-invest in helping MORE animals, this is frustrating. While it's WONDERFUL that anyone wants to help animals in anyway, this is NOT helping animals. We pick up the pieces constantly, like every shelter, of this overflow of puppy mill animals that get cast away, while the pet store owners get rich and never look back. I didn't know there were still people out there who didn't know about pet shops and puppy mills and it's pretty shocking to learn there are educated young people who don't know. Every pet shop gives the same B.S. song and dance about how wonderful their breeders are. Go to your neighboring rural counties and see the Amish churning out pets in horrible conditions. All this suffering for the love of money...don't reward the greed, reward the animals in need!!

27. Posted by Appalled at 10:16 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

These students should have researched their cause, saying they only had a few weeks isn't an excuse. Delilah's has long been known to sell puppy mill puppies. The dogs are sold for profit - plain and simple. Pet store owners who sell dogs for profit support puppy mills. I had hoped this store wouldn't reopen, the owner has long misled the public regarding her dogs. No reputable breeder needs to use a pet store to sell their dogs. A store who sells dogs for profit isn't helping "rescue" these dogs. BOYCOTT stores that sell dogs. It's time the public wakes up and quits supporting a greedy, inhumane business that prospers on imprisoning dogs their entire lifetime. I would suggest the next time a project such as this is undertaken more research occurs before support is given. Please educate yourselves by reading about the Indiana Campaign of Awareness at PetShopPuppies.org. The Monroe County Humane Society is also a great resource about the travesty of puppy mills in this state.

26. Posted by NOT GOOD!! at 10:13 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

Please do not help the pet stores when the rescues and shelters are working their ass of to correct all the problems that the pet stores cause. If you truly want to help the animals you will look for something more worth while. If you want to help money hungry people who don't care about animals and treat them like they are disposable, then by all means, go for it.

25. Posted by Paws for Pound Pups at 10:9 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

I hope these students can get behind a local rescue and raise money for them. Why support a pet store who buy dogs from puppy mills that mistreat their mom and dad dogs.

24. Posted by JACKIE at 10:3 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

PLEASE YOU GUYS, FIND ANOTHER CAUSE...MABE RAISE MONEY TO SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL ANIMAL SHELTER. THERE ARE TOO MANY DOGS, CATS, ETC IN SHELTERS THAT DIE EVERYDAY JUST B/C THEY CANT GET A HOME. RAISE MONEY TO SPONCER ANIMALS IN YOUR ANIMAL SHELTER. THIS WAY, THEY CAN HAVE A BETTER CHANCE AT GETTING ADOPTED. BY SPONCERING, YOU WILL PROVIDE VET CARE, FOOD, SHELTER, AND OF COURSE A MUCH BETTER CHANCE AT GETTING ADOPTED! DON'T BUY WHILE OTHERS DIE!

23. Posted by Stray Savior at 9:59 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

There are so many stray and unwanted animals at shelters and rescues. Why support a store that sells puppies from Puppy Mills? Why not use the money to help a small local rescue? Animal Shelters are usually non profit organizations. They could use the money WAY more than a "for profit" pet store. By suppporting pet stores these students are indirectly adding to the pet overpopulation problem and to the suffering of MANY animals in the community. Everytime someone buys a pet store puppy a shelter animal dies! How about opening a pet store that allows local shelters to adopt out their pets at the location like Feeder Supply and Petsmart?

22. Posted by Money for puppy mills? at 9:56 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

As a near-by animal rescue board memeber, I am so saddened that college students are raising money for a for-profit business that has perpetuated animal abuse in puppy mills. I truly can't believe this is happening. With 10,000 dogs and cats dying each day in shelters all over the U.S, it is heartbreaking to see "charity" going to a petstore that sells dogs bred in horrible conditions and sold like property. There is no love at petshops that sell puppies, only dirty money and greed with no regard for the life of an animal. It is deplorable that this class is raising money to help continue this horrific act. I only hope this "goof" gets the publicicy that will open people's eyes to the travesty it is perpetuating.

21. Posted by Find a better cause at 9:43 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

I can truly appreciate wanting to help... however to truly help a cause you must decide in what way will you be helping. Perhaps starting with research, something that an instuctor should be well versed, should be applied. Helping this establishment by raising money should not be considered. Especially when the establishment doesn't need monetary help. There are so many that truly need help. Why not choose another way to help those in need. It appears to me that the four legged friends would be better off if the students volunteered at an animal shelter or even became truly educated about pet store puppies and kittens. Maybe these students can go to animal control and the shelter and each tell an animal that because the petstore puppy is getting a home... they won't be.

20. Posted by Bad Idea at 9:41 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

This ship needs to be turned around. While the students have good intentions and hearts seem to be in the right place they need to do a little more homework. The instructor said the money was being raised for the hospital bills of the surviving animals and that is fine but I don't think any money raised should go towards rebuilding a for-profit petshop. It is supporting and encouraging a horrendous industry.

19. Posted by FindAnotherCause at 9:38 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

Part of creating a business plan is doing research. It's highly questionable whether this "instructor" should even be employed as an "instructor." Anyone who did the research would have found the pet stores that sell pets are HIGHLY controversial and that this is a BAD idea. Hopefully the controversy that this issue is causing will help educate people about pet shop puppies. There are a lot of reputable pet stores out there...just not one that "sells" dogs or cats.

18. Posted by This is WRONG at 9:26 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

The horrific things that happen at Puppy Mills are never going to stop unless people realize what is going on. Please don't raise another dime for Delilah's... it is WRONG! Students, if you love animals,the RIGHT thing to do would be to have them shut down and those poor animals that are left, be placed in good homes. It will never end unless people start understanding that it is not about that cute puppy in the window, but where did that cute puppy come from and how horrible the mother of that puppy has to live everyday in a cramped cage, in their own waste, living such a terrible life... If everyone could see that "mother" of that cute puppy in the window, they would be disgusted... Don't support Delilah's.... it needs to close down FOREVER.

17. Posted by RAW at 9:21 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

As the co-president and co-founder of RAW (Revitalizing Animal Well-being)--an IU student, faculty, and community organization devoted to giving animal advocacy a sexy, viable new make-over--I must say how extremely displeased we all are to hear about the support of business owners who sell animals for profit. Since over 5 million animals are euthanized every year in shelters across the U.S.--it is beyond unconscionable to support a system that subjects countless animals to horrific conditions for breeding while lovely, healthy animals die because they have nowhere to go. Moreover, as a PhD Candidate and a Teaching Fellow here at IU, I find Wilz's pedagogy absurd. Students should be be given tons of intellectual freedom, but this project was so clearly misguided that I cannot imagine why he did not point out its ethical quandaries. To get involved with RAW's pro-shelter campaign, please visit us at: http://www.indiana.edu/~iuraw/ Courtney Wennerstrom

16. Posted by Uninformed Students at 6:39 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

Most of the public has no clue what is behind the puppies sold in pet stores. Please do your research. Check out sites like www.petshoppuppies.org or www.stoppuppymills.org or www.caps-web.org. The Humane Society of the United States is quoted as saying that 99% of puppies sold in pet stores come from puppy mills. Please do not contribute to this appalling industry!

15. Posted by yddraiggoch1240 at 6:16 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

As a local small business owner and a veterinarian, I am heartened by what these students are trying to do, just a little flabbergasted by where there intentions are. As echoed by so many of you, Delilah's was a for profit business, and as for all the animals "rescued" from the fire, as I recall, they have already been sold. All these students would be doing would be supporting a pet shop that makes its living off the backs of animals. I have personally seen many animals come from Delilah's, and while they may "treat the animals better" than other pet shops, they are not always in the best of health. Selling pets for profit has pretty much always put me in the mind of the human slave trade, although obviously not quite that bad. And everyone knows how well the slaves were treated. Sorry for the honesty. These kids should spend a day or two at the shelter to find out what pet overpopulation is really like and then decide where they want to put their money.

14. Posted by Gov't Bailout at 5:19 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

I think this is a great idea. This business suffered losses and now it needs other people's money so that it can get back on its paws and start earning private income that it will keep for itself. Not only did they take a risk by going into business, but they even paid a premium to negate that risk by getting insurance. Now, they can keep the public's money AND the insurance money. I think this is a great business plan just like AIG, CitiBank, Ford, and GM's business plants. As for puppy mills and the like, that's not a big deal considering that animals do not have human rights.

13. Posted by Instructor at 5:15 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

Dear Concerned Students, Faculty, and IU Community, After receiving multiple emails and concerns, I feel as though a few things need to be explained concerning the class and the goals of this project. For C223, Business and Professional Communication, at the end of the semester, the students choose what project they wish to work on. It is completely up to them to do the research on whether or not they wish to work with a certain organization. Part of the learning process, I believe, is to guide them, but ultimately leave it up to them to come to a consensus and choose which project they would like to participate in. In the past, my classes have worked with organizations like the Humane Association, Volunteers for America, Camp Kasem, the Red Cross, Hoosier Hills Food Bank, and this semester my other section is working on behalf of Unicef. Usually my students tend to want to work with non-profit or other charity organizations. This semester was unusual in that it was the first time we worked with a for-profit organization. After speaking with the owners of Delilah's, I believe the students were under the impression that Delilah's was different from other pet shops in that they did treat the animals humanely, and just wanted to raise funds for the animals who were injured in the fire and their hospital expenses--not to rebuild Delilah's. I have been forwarding your messages to all of my students in the class. I think it is extremely important for them to be aware that just because Delilah's may treat their animals well, they may be part of a larger pet store system which does not. I do sincerely appreciate your concerns, and look forward to having a serious discussion regarding the entire project during the last days of class. Sincerely, Kelly Wilz

12. Posted by In response at 5:5 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

I appreciate everyone's concern regarding this story and what our class has done in the past 2 weeks. To better inform those of you who are distressed, our class decided to take on this project less than a month ago. We decided democratically that a project of this sort would be a good way to raise money for a local business (I realize it is for-profit) that tragically lost everything in its possession. Animals and pets have a special place in peoples hearts, as evident by our actions as well as the posts regarding this article. Our class had only a few weeks to put on this project, and in light of everyone's concern and accusations, it might have been in our interest to further research the cause. As my fellow pet and animal lovers, I hope that you see our intentions are good.

11. Posted by shelterpets! at 4:42 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

Kudos to these students for wanting to support a local business, but this effort is ill-informed. Selling animals in pet stores presents a host of issues. Animals sold in pet stores, even small, local pet stores, are generally not well cared for by their breeders, to put it mildly. Selling pets in pet stores is completely unnecessary, when there are many shelter dogs waiting to be rescued! Next semester, the students would do better to raise money for the Monroe County Humane Association.

10. Posted by Animal advocate at 4:13 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

It is sad that the students evidently did not take the time to research the controversy surrounding this business. I am sure they mean well, but it is very misguided. The IDS article should have presented both sides along with the reminder that this is a for profit vs. not for profit business. Regardless of whether or not the animals came from puppy mills (which I am sure many of them did) selling animals in a pet store only aggravates the problem of pet overpopulation. Please let these students know that there are much better ways to spend their time and resources!

9. Posted by So Sad at 4:2 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

Ok. So the students are clueless. But what about the instructor, Kelly Wilz? What is Wilz teaching these students? That a for-profit business needs students to raise money for them? That it's an OK business to sell animals from less than reputable breeders? Let's face it, puppy mill or not, reputable breeders DON'T sell their animals to pet stores. Is this Wilz's idea of a good business model? Good business practices? An ethical business? This is so sad on so many levels.

8. Posted by A higher standard at 4:2 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

I agree. Supporting a for-profit business is misguided along with supporting a business that supports backyard breeding. Let it be known, true reputable breeders do not sell animals to a pet store. Also let it be known that shelters are not full of animals that are defective. The top reasons for relinquishment to a shelter are: Don't have time for the animal,landlord won't allow and moving. Many animals at the City of Bloomington Animal Shelter come from Delilah's because they were impulse buys or students bought them without considering the life-long committment to an animal. Educate yourself about puppy mills, a good resource is,http://stoppuppymills.org/ or our own local organization, the Monroe County Humane Association: www.monroehumane.org.

7. Posted by dups at 3:35 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

Once again, Delilah's is a FOR PROFIT business that had insurance to cover their losses. They were initally asking for money because they weren't going to receive their insurance check until the investigation for complete-- a ridiculous request on their part to start with. Also, why didn't Delilah's have a fire alarm system that rang directly to the fire department? Who knows how long the fire had been going on before there was enough smoke for someone to notice? It is the business's fault that the fire department didn't respond sooner. If they had, I'm sure more animals could have been saved. Nice sentiment, guys, but why not support the rescue groups and shelters that take these animals in after their owners get tired of them? And how about not supporting unreputable breeders and puppy mills?

6. Posted by fortheanimals at 3:34 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

It is unfortunate that the students involved in this project (who obviously have good intentions) are unaware that this effort does nothing to help animal welfare in the community. What happened to the animals in the fire was awful. Promoting the use of puppy mills is also awful. Raising money for this business will not bring those animals back nor will it save any other animals in the community. It merely provides a financial windfall to a business that has aligned itself with the puppy mill industry.

5. Posted by Jeep at 3:29 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

I echo what "An educated person" states. Delilah's was a FOR PROFIT BUSINESS - and they have insurance to cover their losses. If they didn't that was their mistake. These misguided students would be better off spending a Tuesday at the shelter. Tuesday is the day that they incinerate the euthanized (and other) animals - maybe then they will understand the plight of the homeless animals and why puppy mills and pet shops that sell purebreds need to be eliminated - and pet shops that support shelters and adopt out animals from these shelters need to be supported (as do the shelters themselves). I myself refused to go to Delilah's because they sold puppies, nor do I go to the mall pet shop. When I need pet supplies I go to PetCo, PetsMart,and when I need specialty food, T & T (just south of Bloomington South High School on Walnut Street). So they are going out an boozing at Jake's and Bluebird, and saying it is in the name of "charity" strikes me as odd in itself.

4. Posted by zombiecrush at 2:47 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

WHY are they doing all of this work for a business?! Let's pretend for a minute that it's not an unethical business that makes money off of selling animals like they were toasters- it's STILL a terrible thing to take money from people during these tough economic times and during the holiday season no less and pretend like they're supporting a non-profit. Why couldn't the class pick a non-profit in SERIOUS need like the Animal Shelter?! This is seriously irresponsible!!!

3. Posted by An educated person at 2:46 PM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

What a complete misguided joke. Delilah's is a business, contributing to pet overpopulation and getting dogs from unchecked sources. Where in the leadership at IU to stop kids for doing something as misguided as this. They probably are totally uneducated about animal welfare issues...she shouldn't they be raising $ for an actual non-profit. Way to go IU...students raising money to support a business. She has insurance and is dealing dogs from unchecked sources. Can't IU do better than this?

2. Posted by idsfan at 10:12 AM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

great cause

1. Posted by Selu Gadu at 8:44 AM on Dec 03, 2008 | Report this comment

Seriously, Delilah's is a FOR PROFIT business, not a charity. And a business that contributes seriously to pet overpopulation in the area and which several people I know say sold them puppies who turned out to be from Sullivan County puppy mills. If you bought a dog from Delilah's there is a free service to find out where your dog was bred: www.petshoppuppies.com. I hope that Delilah's will help shelters & rescue rehome dogs rather than returning to selling dogs. There are a lot of animal lovers who boycott pet shops that sell animals.


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